big_fish 发表于 2007-3-19 15:09:50

<p>看到你的帖子,我觉得你可能是初到某地,心情紧张,急于作出成绩,看待问题上有些多虑了。</p><p>而且,你也没指出该公司主要存在什么问题。你老板聘用你的目的是什么。让大家如何帮你呢?</p><p>现在一年已经过去了,相信老兄已经摆平了吧</p>

梦令同 发表于 2007-3-22 10:40:11

<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">肖兄你好,小弟今天路过,匆忙给出几点建议,望有助与你:<span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">1</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">、说到生产管理,肖兄不要烦恼,小弟认为作为<span lang="EN-US">“</span>管理<span lang="EN-US">”</span>无非是看人做事的标准,我是做企划管理和营销培训出身的,对于<span lang="EN-US">“</span>借鉴<span lang="EN-US">”</span>这种方式有为提倡,因为有句谚语说的好<span lang="EN-US">“</span>天下文章一大抄,抄好了是个状元,抄不好是个抄报。<span lang="EN-US">”</span>并且管理是门通理科学,是可以改建再造的。所以我认为你完全可以根据<span lang="EN-US">5S</span>现场管理的方式来制定生产车间乃至整个公司现场的标准,方法是共同的,而这个标准就是你想达到的吗?这样就可以有方法的制定你的标准。你现在需要的是组建一只管理团队,也可以说先要成立一个<span lang="EN-US">“5S</span>推行委员会<span lang="EN-US">”</span>,因为管理不是一个人的游戏,有了这个执行组织你就可以有效的提高管理效用了。下面是我给一个朋友的地产公司做的<span lang="EN-US">5S</span>现场管理规范草案,望有借鉴之用(注:出于行业的差别和保密承诺,只能给肖兄提供<span lang="EN-US">“</span>草案<span lang="EN-US">”</span>望兄长见谅):<span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"><font face="">5S</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥;">管理规范草案</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">第一条</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">
                                        </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">总则</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">为了给员工创造一个干净、整洁、舒适、合理的工作场所和空间环境,使公司办公管理及文化建设提升到一个新层次,特制定如下制度。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">第二条</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">
                                        </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">本制度适用于公司全体员工。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"></p></span></div>

梦令同 发表于 2007-3-22 10:42:52

<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">肖兄你好,小弟今天路过,匆忙给出几点建议,望有助与你:<span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">1</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">、说到生产管理,肖兄不要烦恼,小弟认为作为<span lang="EN-US">“</span>管理<span lang="EN-US">”</span>无非是看人做事的标准,我是做企划管理和营销培训出身的,对于<span lang="EN-US">“</span>借鉴<span lang="EN-US">”</span>这种方式有为提倡,因为有句谚语说的好<span lang="EN-US">“</span>天下文章一大抄,抄好了是个状元,抄不好是个抄报。<span lang="EN-US">”</span>并且管理是门通理科学,是可以改建再造的。所以我认为你完全可以根据<span lang="EN-US">5S</span>现场管理的方式来制定生产车间乃至整个公司现场的标准,方法是共同的,而这个标准就是你想达到的吗?这样就可以有方法的制定你的标准。你现在需要的是组建一只管理团队,也可以说先要成立一个<span lang="EN-US">“5S</span>推行委员会<span lang="EN-US">”</span>,因为管理不是一个人的游戏,有了这个执行组织你就可以有效的提高管理效用了。下面是我给一个朋友的地产公司做的<span lang="EN-US">5S</span>现场管理规范草案,望有借鉴之用(注:出于行业的差别和保密承诺,只能给肖兄提供<span lang="EN-US">“</span>草案<span lang="EN-US">”</span>望兄长见谅):附件见邮箱</span></p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">2</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">、说到质检管理,几乎是每个生产企业最为挠头的环节,针对你说到的不负责任的情况,小弟认为不是干掉谁,而是提升谁。有了“标准”之后,需要作的就是谁来监控这些标准,现阶段你可以建立一个督察小组,这个小组人员可以使企业内部责任心颇强,企图心较高的人,也可以从新外招,不管如何选拔,这个小组在行政关系上是你的直属关系,该组织没有任何职权,但他们有权根据“标准”对任何人开出罚单。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">3</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">、我同意您对“体系管理”的看法,因为在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">ISO</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">中的内控体系如果协调不好,就可能把企业给“反控制”了,处处受堵,我经历的几个企业里都曾出现过如此的尴尬境地,小弟建议,不要一味的“体系论”而更重要的是培养各个环节的尖兵,这样的小体系得建立,有利于你统筹管理,就好像“秦、汉”的分封制。但要在充分放权的同时,加强那只“督导队伍”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">
                                        </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">的建立和管理,因为他们是你在遇到“管理危机”时“和稀泥”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">
                                        </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">的工具。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">4</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">、现在是“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">
                                        </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">信息时代”的“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">
                                        </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">买方市场”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="">
                                        </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">,还怕找不到“想卖东西的人”吗?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">A</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">、利用你的“人脉”关系,让所有认识</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">
                                        </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">你的人都知道你在干什么,你需要什么样的信息。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">B</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">、既然肖雄也是个“潜水者”,那不如在更多的论坛和平台去浅浅水。“天下皆父母,皆兄弟”如果小弟能帮忙的一定倾囊。</span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"></span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 24pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"/><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"/></p></span>

teafor9hao 发表于 2007-6-1 17:11:47

到现在已经过去一年时间了,不知楼主现状如何?

wind 发表于 2007-6-1 21:24:02

<p>楼上说的是,楼主一年来近况如何,一些体系方法适用的如何,事态是如何发展的拿来出来让家人再来评定说一番,呵呵@:)</p>

ywei1867 发表于 2007-6-9 08:33:19

<p>你的公司没有章法,大干部光说不练,小干部怕负责任.你想做好事,先管人后理事.</p>

blueex 发表于 2007-6-10 09:02:37

关注&nbsp; 祝你成功

demotool 发表于 2007-8-2 12:03:33

&nbsp;&nbsp; 学习消化大家的意见。

piasa 发表于 2007-12-17 20:50:18

回复:(肖仁)[求助][原创]刚接手新公司,有些问题请...

&nbsp;其实,说简单点,就是当你管理某个方面时,就要对它进行前期了解,所以,先冲冲电是上策啊!

hzx19792002 发表于 2009-2-4 16:05:24

呵呵,不知现在楼主境况怎么样了呢
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