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标题: 密歇根大学教授拒绝清华大学学生申请读Ph.D.的回信 [打印本页]

作者: 金宏伟 时间: 2007-4-6 15:23
标题: 密歇根大学教授拒绝清华大学学生申请读Ph.D.的回信
(Sat Mar 31 13:12:32 2007)
letter from a professor majored in ME,U OF MICHIGAN,US

Dear xxx:

I would like to inform you of the situation relevant to Chinese graduate
students here, at least at our department, which makes it very difficult for us
to accept graduate students from China in the future.

Over about one year period, we have had 6 Chinese Ph.D. students quit their
RAship and Ph.D. studies. The reason for them to leave was not that they could
not continue, it was rather because they want to have a job now (a higher
salary, with a hope that the companies will apply for their green card status).
They came with thier promises to pursue their Ph.D. degrees, we paid tuition
for them to take courses for their Master degree, and we taught and helped them
in their research capabilities. Once they got their M.S. degree in Mechanical
Engeering, because of the excellent job market in the U.S. at this time, it is
relatively easy for them to find a job. In a way we felt that we were used as a
step for those Chinese students to come here, and get their master's degree,
then get their jobs. We pay approximately $45-50 K/year for each Ph.D. student,
including the tuition, health insurance, various fees, lab and computer fees,
and monthly salary, we also put a lot of time and efforts for them. They (most
of them) also did good research work as assistants. However, we don't get
credit because we don't produce PH.D's, which is one of our major purposes as
an institution of high education. On the other hand, they have their particular
interests which are also understandable, for example, financial pressure, and
wishes to have their green card applications on the way asap.

This situation also happened to my Chinese Ph.D.student. He is very talented
and did a good job in research. However, after he got his M.S. in M.E., he
resigned very recently. We still let him stay here presently (with salary) for
one more month, otherwise he will have to repay his tuition, which is over
$10K. Although we are very considerate for those students, the consequencies
are obvious:

(1) It greatly degraded the reputation of Chinese graduate students who apply
for admission. Some professors address those as "very unethical", "you really
cannot trust them when they promise you to pursue their Ph.D. degrees under
your supervision", " you feel you are so stupid as cheated by your own
student". It really created some resentment. Actually, I know, as of this time,
there are a couple of more students looking for a job or already got a job
offer, but not telling their advisors. They will quit at the last minute
before they leave. This situation will certainly get backfired, and the damadge
will mostly be transferred onto the future applicants from China.

(2) Some professors or research scientists have already made their decisions
not to consider Chinese student applications. Although it should not and cannot
be a policy, it is the individual's decision in selecting future Ph.D. students
with preference, and in my opinion, with good reasons. It will make it much
more difficult for us to bring in Ph.D. students from China. For example, as
you know, I was looking for one or two Ph.D. students later this year, and I
have a vacancy for a Ph.D. student now. But I will not consider Chinese
applicants. At the same time I feel truely sorry, for I know, especially many
graduate students from Tsinghua University of very high qualifications sent
email applications to me (and to other professors), including yourself. Now I
have to inform you that please try your applications elsewhere, or other
professors.

In our department, many Chinese graduate students know me and we have a very
friendly relationships. The faculty members know that too. One told me: "You
try to help them, then they screw you up!"

I spent time to write this email message, for your information and
considerations, as to how this situation may be somehow alleviated. You may
discuss this with your close friends and classmates, I am not sure you should
broadly propagate this message. But I did present a fact and an
opinion...

作者: wooingwbt 时间: 2007-4-6 17:09
sigh 感叹一个

作者: freetzxh 时间: 2007-4-6 17:29

哎，钱，绿卡和道德

真是道德的缺失阿

作者: 风啸岳麓 时间: 2007-4-6 17:59

无奈！

做学问真的没前途？

作者: lq_edward 时间: 2007-4-7 09:39

很同情这个老教授，中国人的确现在变的很功利。为了利益可以使道德沦丧，可以容忍信用的缺失。我也应当反思自己是否有时太功利，是否总是以自我为中心。

作者: ruixutao 时间: 2007-4-7 10:41

没眼看下去了了，看看国家都培养了些什么人

越是“厉害”的“人才”越是急着逃离这片国土

而这些人，逃离之后呢？还不一样被人看不起？

作者: lldtm 时间: 2007-4-7 13:18
情况很复杂，不可一概而论，但是中国人普遍的急功近利，信仰缺失，社会戾气太高等等现状是该每一个有责任的中国人思考反思的。

作者: zhulongxue 时间: 2007-4-7 14:54

人无信不立啊,希望我们的留学生们注意自己的形象,别给国人丢脸!

作者: yfdy 时间: 2007-4-7 15:38
这像是中国人写的东西。。。

作者: 乐天兔 时间: 2007-4-7 21:12

奇怪，我居然全看懂了

肯定不是源自老外的亲笔。

作者: gschenyl 时间: 2007-4-7 21:36
据说清华、北大70%以上的毕业生都选择了移居国外，应该反思一下了。。。。。。

作者: 快乐的翅膀 时间: 2007-4-7 23:26

原来听过一首歌，名字叫留学垃圾

现在还把这四个字留在这里

中国这些所谓的精英到底是怎么了~？

作者: 278950915 时间: 2007-4-8 00:25

绝对是中国人写的！！

作者: Alwen 时间: 2007-4-12 15:12
你看懂的为什么就不是外国人写的呢？暂且不管谁写的，现象是不是存在呢？既然存在，这封信就有其价值。确实值得我们深思的情况。

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