harvey
发表于 2007-2-3 14:07:37
五是错漏对比。如不同投标供应商却出现明显相同的错误或疏忽，特别是改动笔迹一模一样，结合前几种诊断方法，倘若再出现上述一至二种情形，则基本能确定为<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">疑似串标</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，但仍须辅以其它方法作进一步诊断。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"> <br/><br/></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"> 六是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">隔离审查</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">。评标委员会在对投标文件进行澄清时，发现投标人面对提问闪烁其词、支支吾吾，不知所云，则很可能是受人指使前来串标的，来人仅是一不知主子</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">底细</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">的工具，除奉命投标外，其它一无所知，如果给他一定的时间，他仍然不能作出明确答复的，则该供应商存在重大嫌疑。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"> <br/><br/></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"> 一般而言，以上六种诊断方法不能单独使用，如第一种方法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">价格分析</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，不能仅凭价格接近就武断地作串标处理，因为在招标评审中，价格仅是一个重要因素，但并非惟一因素，决定供应商中标与否还要看非价格因素，在不少串标案例中，串标关联各方的报价悬殊较大，而在技术指标等非价格因素</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">做手脚</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，因而仅凭报价根本无法断定是串标，所以确定是否为</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">疑似串标</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ''; mso-hansi-font-family: ''; mso-bidi-font-family: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，须综合运用六种诊断方法，进行综合评价、比较和分析，进而作出较准确而客观的判断。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ''; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"> </span>
shisantian
发表于 2007-2-4 11:46:35
<p>天下乌鸦一样黑！</p>
6655aa
发表于 2007-2-4 13:33:53
<p>天下乌鸦一样黑.不单黑.还多呢！</p><p></p>
6655aa
发表于 2007-2-4 13:34:18
<p>天下乌鸦一样黑.不单黑.还多呢！</p>
zealot2002
发表于 2007-2-4 20:30:31
<p>著名何院士有句话，谁让你生在中国啊！</p>
stzx
发表于 2007-2-5 23:10:43
真正好帖，占个位子，看各位资深人士拍案惊奇
colder
发表于 2007-2-6 13:51:19
<p>感觉在中国就没什么不黑暗的，有同仁知道哪有光明的地方么</p>
beckhem110
发表于 2007-2-6 13:59:41
<p>学到了不少东西!~~</p><p>希望有更多的人来把前规则揭穿.~~</p>
蝉翼空间
发表于 2007-2-8 12:56:22
<p>各位，很多都应该是有车一族了吧，不知在停车的时候有没有遇到过一些麻烦，没遇到过的就当是笑话的了。之前，我在一家涉及停车的里面呆过一段时间，有些东西觉得有必要让大家知道一下。</p><p>1、停车问题，是不是总是遇到很多问题，我的意见是别太把车管员说的当回事，他们所在的收费地点，不见得是在政府部门备案收费的地段，即便是看见了政府树立的铁制收费牌也一样，有些公司，会在晚上把别的地段的收费牌（甚至是从别家公司）移栽过来的，只有他们的主管或经理才知道哪些是合法的路段，这样一来，违章停车就很容易出现了。</p><p>2、收费问题，价格通常都是乱来的，这个大家都有体会吧</p><p>3、违章问题，国家规定有些地方是不能停车的，如井盖上、有变压器的电线杆下、红绿灯前后50米、路口等，这些地方你即便是看见有车位，也最好别停，这些地方很容易挨罚，那些车位线通常是停车公司自己偷画的，这你可能会说，为什么警察不管，这是因为“民不举官不究”，警察会当看不见，只有在大检查的时候才会去追究</p><p>4、车辆被划的问题，抛开自己开车时不小心划得以外，有些就是车管员划的，如果你和车管员因价格、服务态度等发生纠纷，有些车管员就会在手中暗藏个钉子什么的，轻轻地从你车上拂过，之后，你就会知道结果了</p><p>5、车辆被盗的问题，有些是车管员和别人合伙做的，当然这是极少数，容易被盗的车主要集中在十几二十几万元之间的车，这种车好脱手，如广本、蓝鸟等</p><p>这里要说的是，尽量少和车管员发生纠纷，最好和车管员搞好关系，有的时候，他们会起到很大的作用，你和车管员说好了，他们有的人会真的很用心的看护你的车，而且，他们很会找车位，偶尔你违章了，只要你和他们及时沟通，会收到意外的效果，如你刚被贴单，立即在原地找到相关收费员，让他们想想办法，可能会免掉罚款或扣分，但要是你和他关系一般，刚刚又没交停车费，呵呵，你就有事做了</p><p>这里乱七八糟说了一堆，希望大家别介意</p>
zhouming
发表于 2007-2-13 14:25:46
这个帖开的太好了,楼主高!希望大家能涌跃点发言,对我的行业很有帮助!!!!!!!!!!!!!让这帖永不沉!!!!!!!!!!!!!!